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Mastering the Dark Side (other spin)

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Alexvir:
Im a counter Jammer, so it is really frustrating for me (as there arent too many freestylers around me) to have a few clockers around, but not being able to use all my moves in a jam, just cuz I cant handle their spin.
I can delay a clock and do some easy stuff like legovers, but I just cant concentrate enough to stop solo-jamming counter and switch to clock for a while, in order to get it up to scratch.
Does anybody have some advice? Which moves in clock should I learn first (My idea is that brushing and rolling should go first, mixed with simple center moves like WTS cranks and some WTS pulls.)
PS Tho it is nice to know how to learn some moves from the start, for instance when I just started, I had to practice a simple legover for a month, with clock I strated doing it as soon as I could delay low.
PPS - I came onto this whole issue after reading Jamco's article called "This isnt right" in one of the magazine-like forums (FPA-zine) from the previous years. There is some interesting info in there fro people who dont already know about them

Fabio:
I thought we were the "dark side" alex!  :D
By the way, I think the best choice you could do is to try hard and play both spins as much as you can.
Start with brush and delay, then some control moves and pulls (it's very simple to re-learn from the other side, 'cos you can copy yourself but specular), after that learn the sets with both hands (for catches or pulls).After some hard work you'll find very relaxing and enjoyable doing the second spin and maybe after a while you'll feel no difference getting clock or counter.
Ok, now turn over the disc: what's its spin? the same, just upside down. Sometimes your worst enemy is the analitic part of the brain, try to get loose and get the instinct into the game. That's the way of the jam...and you'll enjoy it much more!

Alexvir:
I actually find that the analitic part is a friend when you begin. For instance explaining a move from counter to clock, turnovers and stuff. I think it out first, without the disc, then try to make the move, Its easier to start that way. When you already know the move, thinking is just a waste of time and emotion lol.
Thanks

Alexvir:
Actually being a counter player is an advantage, as I see it  :-\ Basically, we gotta learn both spins in order to heighten our jam experience, while clock players often feel ok playing only their own spin, so many from the Clockwork Dark side (no offence guys, I just like the expression, honest) dont have the inital motivation to learn both spins.

Fabio:
True Alex,
I was impressed the first tournament I went in Rome (Romashred '03). Only me, my partner and some new guys from Rome (now they're top player) were counter...so I went back home and I said to myself "I have to learn clock so I'll be able to jam with everybody, not only counter players". Every tournament I went from that moment I improved my clock throw, delay, catch, pull.
So that's it...for me starting being a counter player...or a "choulder" as The Beast says, was the best option I could have, because I had to work hard for playing clock because there are more clock players around :)
But I think the most important thing is having fun with your freestyle family and throw it whatever spin you want.

p.s. B.S.A.A.* RULEZ

(*Both Spins Any Angle)

Fabioliver

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